Peter wrote: >> OTOH (literally!) I don't see any real (readily available) alternatives >> for the 10F's. Maybe Microchip should look down, not up. > > But how low must one look before one starts having to use mask > programmed parts simply for lack of pins ? The 10F programming algorythm > is quite a piece as is. I think the idea of using 10F parts as replacements for dedicated chips is pretty attractive, but it hangs on two issues (and IMO none has to do with programming the memory). One is that there needs to be a variety of chips with the right on-board peripherals for the job. To be cheap and small, they probably can't have the whole selection of peripherals on-board, and so you need to be able to get the one that you need. The other is that developing custom firmware is expensive. This could be addressed by providing working modules for common applications. Not necessarily something they would have to provide, but something they could provide the infrastructure for it. If you're talking about replacing simple (but maybe more expensive or bigger) hardware solutions, this is an important part. Unless you're only looking at products that sell in the millions. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist