>> I am now trying Olimex LPC-P2148 USB board (US$75) >> using the open >> source gnuarm tools and the open source usb stack >> from lpcusb >> (http://sourceforge. net/projects/ lpcusb). This >> works under both >> Linux and Windows. >> > Sounds like a PIC to me. No diff. - free (GNU) tools, including C, C++, Pascal, Java, maybe even Ada - JTAG debugger (capabilities compareable to an ICD2 but with much cheaper hardware, but that simple hardware does require a parallel port) - > How is the timing for ARM chips? > Predictable like PIC or Atmel? Not as easy, but still calculateable. And ARM is 1:1, so a 60 MHz ARM is 60 MIPS. That is: 32-bit MIPS. Adding two 64-bit values (caveat: in registers) takes 2 instructions. Try that with a (smaller) PIC or an AVR. Note: "or Atmel" is not a good term in this context. Atmel makes/sells ARM chips that are compareable to the Philips chips. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist