Has anybody used these yet? http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/EvaluationKits/TTL-232R.htm >From the site: "The TTL-232R uses a FT232RQ chip which is housed within the USB "A" connector. A 1.8 meter (6 foot) cable is terminated with a 6 way 0.1" pitch header socket which provides access to the Transmit (Tx), Receive (Rx), RTS#, and CTS#, as well as VCC (5V) and GND." Reading the datasheet says it can be run in bit bang modes too, makes for some interesting options. They're available in the states through Mouser for $20. -Denny -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist