At 10:19 AM 5/19/2006 -0700, you wrote: >On May 19, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Bob Axtell wrote: > > >>> If I read my tealeaves right the 16-bit market will be > >>> small because the >8 bit market will be dominated by 32 bit > >>> architectures (ARM, probably others too). > >I'm inclined to agree here. I think the 8bit cores have gotten >faster and the 32bit cores have gotten cheaper, to the point >where 16bit cores are being squeezed out of existence (if there >ever were any true 16 bit cores. x86? PDP11?) The ARM7 is a 16 bit core in Thumb mode. The MSP430 is called 16-bit, and it's quite attractive in so One point I didn't see touched upon is that of code density. The cost of a 32-bit core and an 8-bit may be essentially equal with, say, 0.18u technology (since it's such a tiny percentage of the total die real estate), but if the required flash for a given application is 50% more then the chip will be noticeably more expensive to make. >Putting more into the very small chips would indeed be an >interesting strategy; Large numbers of PWMs in a small package >is something that has come up several times, and has applications >in motor driving and etc... > > > >> If Microchip would license the ARM core... > >Now THAT would be interesting... They would certainly get a lot of sales. Especially with the right peripherals on-chip. But Sandhi specifically wants to increase *margins*, and that's maybe not the best way to do that. With a proprietary chip, the customer is locked in, and competition is kept out to a greater extent. >Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com ->>Test equipment, parts OLED displys http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist