NZ seems to have fallen into a DNS hole. Email works OK. Browser can't find anything. Pinging alpha URLs gives numeric addresses which work when inserted into browser. Adding DNS addresses for another NZ ISP and putting at the top of the DNS table doesn't help. My daughter just arrived and said that the church computers can't access the internet either. They use a wireless based ISP service which is largely independent of the national Telecom internet backbone. If anyone is going to be up they arguably have the most chance. Interesting that Ping resolves OK. Must find out what DNS that is using :-) Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist