I've got three panel meters in a clock I built a while back. They appear to be off some sort of multimeter, with the ohms and volts scales. They're pretty big the face is about 4 inches across. http://petertodd.ca/art/imgs/meter_clock_front.jpg Thing is, someone told me at the surplus place I got them at they heard there's some big story behind them but they didn't know what; I was asking the guy if he had any idea how I could get some more. Any of you guys got an idea? I'd be interested ot hear their tale, especially if it'll help me locate some more! -- pete@petertodd.ca http://www.petertodd.ca -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist