> can you now please not disturb others who might > want to help me (yes - for free, in the internet spirit) OTOH one might say to you: please do not clutter this list with questions you could easily answer for yourself, that attitude is not benificial to those who are trying to get answers to questions that are not easily answered by themselves. Answers like 'you can find that in the manual' are not that bad, they direct you upwards on your learning curve. A suitable next question from your side could be 'I looked in chapter 3, 4 an 7, but did not find the answer, in which chapter should I look?'. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist