> If you could answer one question for me: To do this story, I > started opening up all the electronics in my house to see > which uses freescale, atmel, microchip. Why do some > manufacturers grind off the > name and model numbers off the chips? One of the products I tried > to open up had all the chips wiped clean. Maybe it was just a fluke? If you can't identify the chip, you can't crack the copy protection, read out the firmware, and make your own knock off of the product without paying the firmware development cost. Not that "you" would, just that there are people who do. And "we" want to make it harder for "you" to do that. Honestly, I doubt it slows down most professional knock off artists. I remember the later generations of the cue cat got xrayed to find out what chip ran it since they can encapsulated the thing to keep people reverse engineering it. That sort of ability has got to be very much in the hands of any scumbag who does that sort of thing for a "living." Its more a matter of slowing down the lower level scumbags so that you can sell your product for a bit longer... Until the upper level scumbags bring their tools to bear and copy it. --- James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 phone http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist