> Does the parallel port guarantee the minimum voltage > for programming a PIC,12.5v? The El Cheapo has very clever power supply circuitry, and does not depend on the parallel port for this power. It uses a walwart of 16V to supply its current, which is regulated to 12V using a 7812 and artificially elevated using two diodes to 13.4V, which suits the entire range of PICmicros it was meant to program. See http://www.myke.com/elcheapo.htm for all details (although, as said, it is probably not the wisest choice if you are going to build a programmer). Greetings, Maarten Hofman. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist