> > I'm interested to hear the details about this intellectual property. > What patents or copyrights are being violated if I do a clean room > reverse engineering of the PICMicro in question, then start producing > it as a second source? Well, one of the more interesting patents that Microchip has is the "n-bit databus in n-pin package". Which means that if your microcontroller has a databus of 8 bits, then you can't put it into a package of only 8 pins (or less, I believe, if I read the patent correctly... I had fun looking it up earlier this week). This basically protects all 8-pin (and smaller) that Microchip makes. Given the fact that they have that particular patent, I am pretty certain that they have other patents as well. As for second sources, I am quite certain there are a number of manufacturers that make Microchip products under license. I believe there are several in China and Brazil, also because these countries wouldn't allow Microchip to sell to them unless they had such a construct in place. I'm not certain whether these manufacturers would sell outside of their target market, though. Greetings, Maarten Hofman. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist