I've always wondered if we wouldn't be doing bad things by tapping into ANY source of energy. For example, if we capture too much wind energy, then not enough is available to carry water in from the ocean and our inland fresh water supplies dry up. If we capture too much solar, same thing. Or maybe something else. What about fusion using lunar helium-3? Now we're importing and releasing energy into our "energy sphere" that was not intended to be there. Result- more warming. Most of these would require HUGE scales of energy production to make a dent, but we ARE headed that way. The only REAL solution is to stop releasing so damn much energy into the Earth's biosphere. So we either need to moderate our consumption or get off Earth. I'm all for getting off Earth. For interesting reading about energy "solutions", look up Freeman Dyson's theories about levels of civilization. This is from a distant memory, so don't be too hard on me. A level zero civilization uses fossil fuels, nuclear energy, and maybe some solar. A level 1 civilization uses ALL of the energy which is incident upon its homeworld. A level 2 civilization uses ALL the energy which escapes its primary. A level 3 civilization uses all of the energy which escapes from its local stellar cluster. So on a galactic scale, we aren't much better than cavemen roasting mastodons over fire that has to be kept rather than created! Also continue (dragging the conversation in a (hopefully) less inflammatory direction) to consider that any civilization above level one would be, for all intents and purposes, largely invisible to outside observers. After all, we can't see its primary (or local cluster), and any energy radiated would be in the form of heat which would red shift as they move away from us, causing it to look even less like what we're looking for as likely ET candidates. So there could be tens of thousands of these civilizations all around us and we'd never know... Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist