>> I quit buying byte when they dropped the circuit cellar. > Blame McGraw-Hill's legal staff. I still wonder why Byte, once a leading magazine (*the* maganize) on computers and related electronics transformed itself into a me-too type of computer magazine (aimed at managers instead of techies), and (of course) lost its readers and had to quit. Was the old format unfit for the new times? Or did some manager think this was a smart move? As a boy I read, read and re-read the old bytes, with articles like Steve's PC clone (full schematics!), Jerry's adventures with TRS80 memory expansion units, and in-depth articles about memory management on the Mac (remember, double-indirection instead of a memory management unit). CC still has a compareable level on the electronics side, drDobbs kept the flag on the software side for some time (but has IMHO also turned bad). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist