AND....that is why I buy my beef on the hoof so to speak. = "I'll have that one over there......" = boom = week later....its in the freezer. James Newtons Massmind wrote: People who cut themselves off for silly reasons are punishing themselves enough. There is no need to take it as an insult, he is insulting himself on your behalf. And the USA is CERTAINLY not ahead of Canada on safety issues for food. Guess what the #1 feed for cows in the USA is? No, cow brains are used indirectly, but mostly, it is chicken poop. They cook it to 160 degrees and then mix in grains etc... http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/158359_feed28.html = http://www.mycattle.com/news/dsp_topstories_article.cfm?storyid=3D13563 Cattle feed is often a sum of animal parts. When the FDA banned cattle feed from containing most byproducts of cattle, sheep and goats, the loophole was that chicken feed could still have that and cattle could be fed chicken feces, poultry feathers, cow blood or other parts of pigs, horses, fish, cattle and just about any animal part unfit for human consumption. = In January of 2004 the FDA moved to ban feeds containing cattle blood and poultry litter, which includes manure. But the outcry was so strong that they rescinded that rule. As far as I know, this is still the case. Feed can still include parts of pigs, fish, chicken, horses, even cats or dogs. And some of those animals -- before being rendered and mixed up for cattle feed -- are raised on food containing the same cow parts now banned from cattle consumption. = Additionally, there is nothing to prevent factory cattle farms from directly feeding their cattle with chicken shit or other items which can not be SOLD as feed. This is a big deal because many chicken factories will actually PAY to have chicken poop removed. Since it is not being SOLD as feed, feeding it to cows violates no law. To some degree, every thing is recycled or "rendered" in nature. All the parts of a dead chicken in the wild would be recovered in the growth of plants, worms, bugs and other things which might be eaten by other chickens. But the point is that the larger the difference between the consumer and the by-products produced by the donor, the smaller the chance the something "bad" will happen. Feeding cow to cows has proven to be catastrophic. Feeding one animal to another is less so, but the best would be to feed animal parts to plants before feeding those plants to other (or the same) animals. = http://www.all-creatures.org/anex/chicken.html You don't want to see this. It shows the reality of the egg production industry. Did you know that in some hatcheries the male chicks (which have no value) are ground up and fed to the female chicks? = http://www.njfarms.org/njhs.htm The animal cruelty laws in NJ will send you to jail if you fail to feed your pet for a few days... Unless you are a farmer, and then you can starve your hens for 2 weeks to force molting and start a new egg laying cycle. = http://www.factoryfarming.com/health_more.htm Human Health risks from factory farming. This organization is pushing for vegan diets, but they do admit that small, family farms are a better choice if you will eat meat. = http://www.bancruelfarms.org/meatrix/ The Meatrix Moovie. --- James. > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu = > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of microsoftwarecontrol > Sent: 2006 Apr 25, Tue 07:46 > To: piclist@mit.edu > Subject: [OT]on ebay,one guy just said "don't ship to Canada = > due to the risk of Mad CowDisease" = > = > what is his real meaning? = > is this an offense? = > = > reading this I feel badly, although it relates very little to me > = -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist = --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2=A2= /min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist