What is the word for a component (let's say a 7805, or a 74HC595) from an unspecified manufacturer? My supplier uses the abberviation -MBR, dunno what that abbreviates. Partminer seems to use that too. Google turns up 'Master Boot Record' and 'Membrane Bio Reactor'. I guess it is not one of those two. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist