Olin Lathrop wrote: > Unless Russell can show that is has been proven insufficient, the "for > sure" statement is just irresponsible science from somebody that should > know better. I generally read a "for sure" as synonymous for "I believe" or "IMO". This seems a bit contradictory, as the "sure" in "for sure" seems to mean "I'm /not/ sure", but I think that's how it's generally meant. Or am I mistaken here? Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist