> Can orcad make pads with holes in? So far I only get > filled pads. I am trying to make a small pcb in Orcad > and print it on paper. It is easier to drill if there is a hole. If you can use padstack to change the type of pad to "annular ring" you can get donut pads with an inner and outer diameter - this is independent of drill size. Cheers, Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist