>I'd also say HD motors, but they don't usually >have the sensor - I suspect they either detect >back EMF or simply drive it blind and let the >data stream clock itself. I think you will find that the data clock rate from the servo track gets used for feedback instead of the sensors. The other source of suitable motors, as I already noted is VCR head spindle and capstan motors. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist