> (There USED to be "Vocational school" for people too dumb to go > to college, to prepare for technical jobs like mechanic, plumber, > Cobol coder, etc. "Skilled" jobs not requiring advance math or > philosophy class. But they're essentially gone.) There still are these places. However, due to the stigma placed on them, they aren't as visible as normal colleges. And many of these jobs require at least as much intelligence to do as programming. Quite frankly it is pushing my limits to go from being a programmer/writer to a machinist/caregiver/programmer/writer. I wish that I *had* taken a few more shop classes in high school or college. > BillW -- D. Jay Newman ! Author of: jay@sprucegrove.com ! _Linux Robotics: Building Smarter Robots_ http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! (Now I can get back to building robots.) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist