Russell McMahon wrote: >> My trip to Vancouver was an excellent opportunity to investigate the >> "longest undefended border". > Much of Europe is like that. /Much/ shorter borders, though :) > You can drive through most of the EU without much hope of seeing a > border. Before it was the EU, that was a bit different. Most roads crossing borders had some kind of border post, even though many of them didn't really do much. >> there is NO way I would have known that crossing that patch of grass >> meant entering another country! But you always (well, in my lifetime :) could cross the borders by foot, hiking through the countryside far away from roads, without ever noticing that there was a border. Not even a patch of cut grass. > There's quite a contrast getting in and out of Hungary. And if you are a > truck driver, getting into Slovakia from the Czech republic takes > typically about 3 days I'm told. If you wanted contrast, you should have been there during the Cold War years :) Driving through the border felt like going behind enemy lines... Or when hiking in North-Eastern Bavarian forests, a very nice region around the former East German border, quiet, remote and not much inhabited, and all of a sudden you met the border... steel and concrete, electric fences, towers with machine guns, heavily armed patrols, lighted by night, "the whole nine yards" :) A surreal experience. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist