Bob, three gold-plated wires would do as a simple SPST switch. If #2 is 1" longer than #1 and #3 is 1" longer than #2 you have a switch with #2 as the common. The end of #1 is at the high water mark. If level falls below #2, then #2 and #3 are not shorted and the pump turns on. When water shorts #1 to #2 it turns off You could make them very fine, even colour them the same as the fountain so they'd not be too obvious -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist