My wife bought a ceramic fountain. It has a pump that draws water from the bottom and pumps it to the top, so the birds can bathe in it and it srips down to the bottom again. Looks neat, works nice, kills some of the road noise. The problem is that in So Arizona, the water evaporates so fast, I can't discipline myself to keep it filled. So... I am gonna design a slick way to sense when the water level is low so it can kick on a solenoid and pump some back into it. I don't want to use anything ugly, or big (like a float valve). I had in mind a non-contact sensor, perhaps a capacitor. The whole sensor/solenoid deal could then be automatic. What would work reliably? I am leaning toward a probe with two insulated contacts, that I can make part of a tuned circuit; when the water is missing between the probes, the frequency is at a certain range, with the water between the probes, the frequency is detuned. Another idea was to mount a tiny magnetic float in a plastic tube, and when the float is high enough, it triggers a hall device. Any other ideas? Lotsa talent here. I have piles of PICs, can always help control the solenoid that way... --Bob -- Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to attach@engineer.cotse.net . 1-520-850-1673 USA/Canada http://beam.to/azengineer -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist