Juan Garofalo wrote: >> The Citizens of the United States "own" the spectrum, and the cell >> companies paid money in an auction to have the privilege of using that >> portion of the spectrum. > > > Really ? What if you bother to really think about it ? You assume I haven't? > The companiy is forced to pay the government the price of a > 'license'. And then the company charges its customers to recoup that > expense. So, the money that the government collects ***comes from the > citizens*** The ones using the service that ended up on those frequencies, perhaps -- but not all citizens. There are plenty of people that don't have, want, or need cellular phones here. The company charges a lot more than they paid to the government for the frequency use to their subscribers for access to the overall cellular service. It's a business. They're attempting to make a profit, and one of their fixed costs is the cost of "leasing" the spectrum from the government. Similar to the rent they pay for tower space from land owners, or the power bill they pay every month to the electric company. > It's utterly absurd that, if the citizens own the spectrum as yuo > say, they must pay for using it (as they actually do). I didn't say it was a good system. I was just explaining that the FCC doesn't OWN anything. They're the government appointed regulators of spectrum use here in the United States. Auctioning off spectrum is one of the "businesses" I don't think the FCC should have ever gone into, but they're doing it. They should have remained impartial regulators, and money shouldn't be the object of their focus when allocating spectrum, but ... the winds of political change have made that role for the FCC a long-distant past. The "leased" spectrum only applies to cellular, and perhaps in some ways, Broadcast. Some RF-based services pay little to nothing for their spectrum use, other than licensing fees to cover the costs of operating the central clearinghouse of licenses. And again the FCC only handles public spectrum use. Government spectrum is handled completely differently. The FAA doesn't lease or pay for the spectrum they use to handle Aviation safety and navigation services, for example. > The spectrum is effectyvely owned by the govt. and the 'citizens' > are TAXED for the 'privilege' of using it. No, taxes are lower because the company paid up-front for the frequency use, and the users of the spectrum pay more than enough to cover their cellular company's expenses for spectrum use. The cellular companies spend far more money on their network hardware, real estate/land use, and other expenses, than they do on spectrum use fees. Their customers pay back all of this, plus more, for the service of having a cellular phone that works in whatever coverage areas the cellular company chooses to service. > Sorry I shattered your rosy colored glasses. Not really -- I have no idea what you think the issue is at hand, nor do I care in the slightest. Nate -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist