> Is this link still active? I'm puzzled by the question. When I click on it it returns the same page and free offers as when I 1st posted it, so the answer may well be yes. I assume that it may not work for you? RM A range of fully & forever free software targeting major desktop applications > http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/ Packages for - Advanced photo editing - Photoplus - Photoshop sub-clone Desktop publishing Website design Graphical design and vector drawing 3D animation and modelling -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist