Getting back to the original question, it occurs to me that if you can deal with an inverted output sense (that is, the output stays LOW until there is a missing pulse), you can probably use the "traditional" time-delay-from switch circuit (figure 8 from http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html ) This applies the trigger signal to the reset pin as well as the trigger pin. Some change in component values may be needed; IIRC, this will charge the cap from 0 to 2/3 V instead of sticking between 1/3 and 2/3 V... >> A wild thought: If there exists a small 8-pin micro (PIC or >> otherwise) with Vdd and Vss on the same pins as the 555, you >> could swap that in. Assuming its a 5V circuit. >> For "traditional" 555 applications, you can fit a pic10f on a little daughter card that would plug into a 555 socket, with power and "digital" IO (trigger, output, reset) run to appropriate pins and others left disconnected. Indeed, I have several times played with the idea of developing nice GUI (or otherwise human-oriented) PC software where you plug in 555-like design parameters and get out PIC code (or a programmed PIC, for that matter.) However, you quickly run into the realization that there are MANY places where even the cheapest microprocessors is NOT a good replacement for a 555; the micro has very limited drive capability and power supply limits. for instance, and applications that are not quite "standard" are distressingly common... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist