You don't need to print anything imho. 'Print' a blank page and a page with representative graphics which you wish to use, both to lossless image files (I would use pbm). Then evaluate their densities. The density is simply the sum of the values of all pixels, for each. This can be broken down by RGB and/or black (depending whenther the images are BW or color). Then divide. That's it. Since no printer is involved someone else could do it for you and email the results. Of course this does not account for the 'blackness' of the print. hope this helps, Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist