> I really have a hard time imagining the ARM taking over much of > the "deep embedded" space (where the finished device doesn't at > all resemble a computer.) The chips are too ... inconvenient. what is inconvenient? packaging, voltage levels, architecture? > Yeah, the ARM might take over from bigger 16bit chips; things > like MP3 plays and so on where the CPU power is worth the extra > infrastructure... > OTOH, I don't know whether one needs a PIC24 or AVR32 there either. > I can't see 8-bit controllers disappearing... It's not one or the other, there is a broad spectrum of (deeply) embedded applications. When chip price (and maybe long-term availability!) is important IMHO PIC-12 and PIC-14 are here to stay. I am not so sure about pic-18, pic-24, and mega-AVR, who are in the same price region as low-end ARMs and can't deliver the same horsepower. Think of a low-end ARM as an SX at 60 MHz but with 32-bit instructions, more RAM, no banking, lots of peripherals, lots of development tools, JTAG debugging interface, build-in bootloader, etc etc. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist