On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Wouter van Ooijen wrote: >> The 'eggbeater' style vertical rotors work on lift, not drag. The >> rotors have a vertical-areoplane-wing form, creating lift when the >> wind flows around. The advantage of lift is that the rotor can move >> faster than the wind flowing around it, drag is limited to the wind >> speed. > > Yes, I understand that, but there has to be a change in airfoil profile or > angle of attack between the front and back. Something has to preferentially > push the blade one way when it's at front, then the other way when you flip > it 180deg. Unless they are counting on the wind shadow effect of the front > blade on the back, but that doesn't sound too efficient. The blade that faces the wind the 'right' way (aerofoil-wise speaking) generates lift. The other does not, but neither makes a lot of drag because they are aerodynamically efficient (thin chord). These are Darreius rotors and they do not start by themselves, they have a starter motor or a small Savonius turbine built into the axle to start them. The foils generate torque only for a part of the rotation. But the most efficient turbine is the two-blade 'propeller' type, by far. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist