I believe any component can breakdown once a certain point is reached. In this case a zener can burn up after the maximum temperature is reached. http://www.futurlec.com/Datasheet/Diodes/1N746-1N759.pdf Look at maximum junction temperature. 175 c. After this temperature well........ I haven't seen a lab test on this and can't fully backup my claim. john --- Russell McMahon wrote: > Summary: > > I would be interested in knowing if anyone is aware > of a formal > specification for fail-Short-Circuit behaviour for > zener diodes or any > discussion on the subject. > > _____________________________ > > > Use of zener diodes as "fail-short" protection on > power supply rails > is common. > If the rail voltage exceeds the zener voltage > adequately the zener > overheats and fails short-circuited, thereby > clamping the rail to near > ground and blowing the fuse which you had better > have provided. The > intention is to protect equipment which may > otherwise be damaged by > severe fault over voltages. > > I have used 6 Watt SOD-64 glass bead Philips > BZW03Cxx zener diodes for > this purpose for many years. These notionally will > (in the right > circuit) clamp excess voltages in the sub-nanosecond > timeframe. My > experience is that when used on a supply with a > nominal 6 amps > capability these zeners will reliably fail > short-circuit. On every > occasion when I have seen these fail they invariably > go SC (short > circuit) and never OC (open circuit) . > > http://www.vishay.com/docs/85602/85602.pdf > > The range of conditions under which a zener will > fail SC and not OC > and, very importantly, the range of subsequent > currents over which a > failed zener will REMAIN SC does not seem to be part > of any > specification I have ever seen. > > I note that much smaller zeners (eg 500 mW) also > seem to always fail > SC under realistic provocation. It is not obvious > what certainty I can > have that this will always be the case for any given > circuit. > > I would be interested in knowing if anyone is aware > of a formal > specification for fail SC behaviour or any > discussion on the subject. > Google knows about lots of people who mention the > phenomena but > doesn't seem to know about anyone who discusses it > usefully. > > The sort of thing that would be useful is knowing > that you can take a > given Vvolt Wmilliwatt zener of a certain > construction and that if you > destroy it with less that Iamps/Pjoules or whatever > (mainly a complex > function thereof) then you can expect it to go SC > rather than OC with > a given degree of certainty. > > That there are upper limits is demonstrated by > considering a 5V1 500 > mW zener placed across a 12V car battery. The zener > may go SC > initially, but not for long. The fused junction will > have a different > current carrying capacity than the leads and any > interconnects. > Something will fail and rapidly. In a few informal > tests of 500 mW > glass zeners across a 30V 5A lab supply failure was > always SC with the > supply then sitting on the internal current limiter. > I haven't pushed > this to see how repeatable it is or what the upper > limits of reliable > SC are. > > In my target application I have 1360 uF at 150V > behind a FET which may > itself fail SC and connect this supply to a 16V > rail. The 3W zener > does a good job of stopping any damage if this > happens. 500 mW zeners > are much smaller and cheaper, but .... . > > > > Russell McMahon > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist