I think the FT232R has the CP2102 beat: 1. The FT232R can supply an OUTPUT from the clock for use of a local uP. The clock can be 6, 12, or 24 Mhz- or all 3. 2. The FT232R can provide any custom-divisable baud rate; the CP2102 has a good variety but not to the extent of the FT232R. 3. While the utility of bit-bang mode is still up in the air, the FT232R can provide 3 different versions. 4. The FT232R optionally can sink/source 12mA from its drive pins, sometimes an important consideration, especially the fast clocks. 5. The TSSOP28 is better to handle than the QFN, meaning the FT232RL is more hobbyist- friendly. I've yet to sucessfully mount a QFN part. On the other hand, the CP2102 has a 3V voltage regulator, the FT232R doesn't. BUT, thanks for pointing the CP2102 out. Good call. --Bob . Russell McMahon wrote: >>>FTDI has created a truly remarkable chip, >>>the FT232RL. Its about the fastest possible >>>way to get a PIC connected to USB2.0. >>> >>> > > > >>>http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232R.htm . >>> >>> > > >My friend Ken Mardle said: > > > >>Sounds like their answer to the CP2102 and CP2103 from Silicon Labs. >> >> > >How do these compare? > >CP2102 data sheet > > http://www.silabs.com/public/documents/tpub_doc/dsheet/Microcontrollers/Interface/en/cp2102.pdf > >Technical information > > http://www.silabs.com/tgwWebApp/appmanager/tgw/tgwHome?_nfpb=true&searchPortlet_actionOverride=%2FbasicSearch%2FbasicSearch&_windowLabel=searchPortlet&_pageLabel=search_page > > >$US4.03/1 Digikey > > http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Criteria?Ref=60207&Site=US&Cat=33227974 > >CP2103 data sheet > > http://www.silabs.com/public/documents/tpub_doc/dsheet/Microcontrollers/Interface/en/cp2103.pdf > >$US4.70/1 Digikey > > http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?Ref=60329&Row=118925&Site=US > > > > RM > > > -- Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to attach@engineer.cotse.net . 1-520-850-1673 USA/Canada http://beam.to/azengineer -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist