Ok, I finally found some more material references wrt nozzle geometry wrt. jet length: http://engr.smu.edu/rcam/research/waterjet/Par4.html This seems to indicate that going beyond 200 jet diameters is not good, and 100 jet diameters is safe (for the jet shape). For 100:1 these figures result (roughly) (the equivalent Re is 1000 in air for the 3 mm nozzle and deteriorates fast with increasing speeds): nozzle jet l. jet speed pump pressure dia. mm m/sec l/min bar (less nozzle loss) -------------------------------------------------------------- 3 300 2.4 4.0 0.03 6 600 3.4 22.0 0.06 12 1200 4.8 130.3 0.09 The low speeds indicate that even a small wind will interfere with operation. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist