>But doesn't that have pads prewired in strips >of 5 or whatever. No they are continuous strips the length of the board. >How is routing anything in Eagle going to help? I don't really think it is, but I guess it allows him to draw the circuit and attempt to do a layout with only vertical and horizontal traces. Not sure that it will do efficient traces though. >Isn't the OP going to manually connect the strips? Yes, what he is looking to do is have the bottom layer as the copper strips on the board, and the top layer as the jumper wires. So what he needs to do is set the thing to 0.1" pitch for each, but I suspect he is going to have to use insulated wire anyway. I cannot figure out how other components are going to get laid out either, unless he has a heap of footprints for C's and R's with different hole spacings on the footprints. Otherwise there will be excess jumpers to work to standard footprints. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist