> Hmm, that is interesting. Will pass that on to my biking colleague > who is into making LED torches and bike lamps The latest "Rat It Before You Chuck It" article in Silicon Chip shows how to make a wind-up LED torch from a microwave platter motor and an old plug-pack You turn the motor to get HV AC out, which is passed through the primary of the plug-pack, and comes out as LV DC, stored in a couple of big caps to keep the LED going after you stop turning. The LED has a series trimpot to reduce V across it -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist