> >One of the safety features touted for the LED based > >center brake lights is the instant on time. One other spin is on Holden's concept car, the Efijy http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/conceptcar?modelid=20001 It has 32 red-amber bi-colour LEDs to act as both brake and indicator as well as LED headlamps and interior lights There's also the emerging use of flashing brake lights As for using LEDs as lighting, I've found that pointing them backwards into a parabolic reflector makes a much better lamp than pointing them forward http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/bikelamp.html -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist