Hello all, I've got some new PIC 12F683s and I'd really like to use them. ;-) Unfortunately, I have a PICALL programmer (served me well for years) that doesn't seem to really be supported anymore by the creator. I was able to hack the DEVICE.INI file last year so that I could program the 16F88, but I'm not sure it can handle the 12F683 at all. It appears that microchip created a unique situation with this model by switching some CONFIG bits around. It can handle the 12F629 and 12F675, but those don't appear to even be close in terms of CONFIG stuff. IOW, does anyone have a DEVICE.INI entry that will work? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist