Olin Lathrop wrote: > Douglas Wood wrote: >> I've not ever seen a micro with RS-anything built into the micro >> itself. I wouldn't want one, either. If the RS-485 (or >> RS-422/232/etc.) part of the circuit got fried, you'd have to replace >> the entire micro, not just the much less expensive transceiver chip. > > This seems to be a common position, but does it really matter? In most > cases if the unit fries, you are going to replace the whole unit. Whether > that's due to the RS-232 interface or the micro doesn't make any difference. > It just doesn't make sense to spend $50 technician time to diagnose and > repair the problem on a $40 board. Olin, I've seen fried transceiver chips on tons of equipment. I've referred to them as self sacrificing (I think others have too). It got to the point that when a particular board came in to be repaired that I'd just replace the Moto MC1489 without any other testing. 95% of the time the board would work. The $2 (US) part would save a $1500 board (this was back in the mid 80's). I still kind of design things that way today (sacrificing parts separate from the main board). Of course I just do it as a hobby now which is definitely a different prospective from the board swap culture today. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ Backup site -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist