In tape, left over from a project. Bought from digikey (PIC18LF452-I/PT-ND) Jan 2004 I think. Maybe June. As an aside - these are drop-in replacements for the 18F452, the "LF" means it is guaranteed to run at below 4.5V, otherwise identical. They could be used in place of F442 / LF442, they have 2x the program memory as the 442. (and maybe more ram, consult datasheet). First $100 gets them, I'll consider (reasonable) lower offers. Buyer pays shipping - a few bucks. They go on ebay in a few days if nobody is interested. Will send USPS from new york city. Thanks! Jesse -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist