Just a thought If you position the pic '508 / 202 in the train then the speed and id can be generated local to the sensor and teh data transmitted in packets with a checksum a single receiver and display could then display info from many trains. This does away with complex modulation to transmit simple pulses and provides data verification in the form of a checksum or couple it to the track (same difference the checksum is the verification) Rgds Steve -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Paul James E. Sent: 14 February 2006 09:10 To: piclist@mit.edu Subject: Re: [EE] Speedometer for the model railroad - RF or IR? Thats the neat thing about modulating a signal. You can modulate it so that noise cannot immitate it, therefore, the receiver won't be confused. And there are filters. It's worth a shot in my opinion. And besides, whats to say that the same noise, if any, wouldn't interfere with RF too. Just a thought. I had planned to use this method with my brother-in-laws HO trains, but he moved and I didn't get a chance to get it all together before he moved. Regards, Jim >> Why don't you build a small transmitter operating at say 200Khz >> or so and capacitively couple the modulated signal to the rails > > That thought occured to me initially but I wondered about the amount of > electrical noise from the motor(s) going back on to the track > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist