Thank you Reggie. I would need only VPW now with GM vehicle. Who knows later? Vitaliy indicated the company he works for and looking there find they have several chips (PICs) to handle the various protocols. Just yesterday noticed the ELM327 which supposedly handles all, including CAN, though noted schematic showed a chip to handle the actual OBD CAN i/f. So now have too many directions to go at the moment. I may just 'break down' and get one of those chips. Sort of a choice of how much time vs. $$s to spend. So for now, this thread can be closed as far as I'm concerned. Harley -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist