Does that mean that a 12 DC relay being switched cannot produce a spike of more than one KV? Has it been shown that the diode was destroyed by causes other than the safe operating parameters having been exceeded? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spehro Pefhany" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [EE] Transient Suppression - was Re: [ee] 3904 base resistor > At 01:54 PM 2/9/2006 +0200, you wrote: > > >>The switching time of the diode multiplied with the current flow >>through diode (which is not at all neglijible, in fact is a huge spike >>of current) > > IT CANNOT >>>CANNOT<<<< EXCEED THE STEADY STATE COIL CURRENT!!!! > > If you can switch it with a wimpy 2N3904 it's nothing to worry about. > >>and multiplied with the voltage drop across diode (which >>is much greater than 0.6V because diode is not in direct conduction >>due the switching time, it's equal with the energy requested to be >>eaten by the suppressor device. > > Hardly. First, the energy is not 'eaten by the suppressor device' > when you use a diode, MOST of it (95%) dissipates in the copper resistance > of the coil. After switching off a 12V relay, there is briefly > (milliseconds) > a 12V + diode drop across the coil resistance internally (opposite > polarity). > Secondly, the voltage at the collector of the BJT moves rather slowly. The > BJT > switches off like molasses, and there is plenty of distributed > capacitance in the coil on top of that. There are NO terahertz or > gigahertz > frequencies here where nanoseconds or picoseconds make a difference. > No magic, this is very straightforward low-frequency analog stuff. > > Best regards, > > Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the > reward" > speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: > http://www.trexon.com > Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: > http://www.speff.com > ->> Inexpensive test equipment & parts > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist