> That's what I'm doing so far, but it's just annoying to have to > do all that work when a part that does exactly what I want > exists. But if I have to I suppose I'll stick with what I have It's possible that there isn't the demand for a clock-type LED display to find one at retail level as it's possible without too much difficulty to make your own. Every clock project using LEDs I can recall has the author simply strobing 4 singles I don't see anything in the RS catalogue for example, although they have just about every other. Whether you could get a small quantity from a trade outlet really depends on how customer- friendly they are. I daresay my local Kingbright distributor (Active) might be able to help with ones or twos but, as has been my experience so often, anything a little out of the ordinary involves quantity indenting -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist