After some prodding and probing, it seems like my programmer is shot. I would much appreciate it if someone could burn me the latest version of the kitsrus 128 firmware onto a 16f628a and send it/hand it to me (i'm in Sunnyvale, CA). I will of course compensate you for the effort and the chip itself. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist