> From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Byron A Jeff > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:52 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [PIC] [gnupic] noob's 1st ques > > Over the years I've had many users successfully utilize the Trivial > programmer in its various forms. It served a need for each of my > users. I'm simply extending the DIY development model that has > already been established. It's certainly not for everyone. However, > I feel that it's a niche that still needs to be filled even as we > move to PC interfaces that are so complex that no hobby user has > any hope of interfacing to it with simple hardware. > I can not agree with you on the last sentence. "Simple hardware" is very subjective. Yes USB is not as easy as serial port. However, USB interface chips have been around for years. Even the USB MCUs like the USB PICs are getting more and more popular. I will not say they are easy but they are within the reach of hobbyists. And actually USB makes the hardware simpler in quite some cases because it provides the power. The firmware can be more difficult though. The host software can be more difficult. Still it is within the reach of hobbyists. Regards, Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist