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Every time I saw someone buy a super duper do-them-all-50,000 chips programmer so far, I also saw the person discover that one of the few chips they wanted to program with it had buggy support, followed by interesting waiting time for the software update (is the email in yet - repeated every five minutes for as long as it takes). To help out people who really want to feel independent, and who still have some room left in the toolshed, I attach an untried but very likely functional manual pic programmer, that does not require any operating systems, and even works without coffee. The algorythm can be edited with any pencil and the timing is very flexible. It uses the latest wetware everyone owns already, and requires only a soldering iron and a few parts anyone can obtain. It represents a great advance compared to the pic programmer based on two morse keys operated simultaneously behind one's back. 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