Speaking of music "downloading", I've been really entertained by Pandora at www.pandora.com. It's not a service where you can (legally) save the music, but it's a neat one for discovering music. You basicalyl start with a song or songs you like, then it selects similar music that you may like. You tell it what you think while it plays, and the choices get better. It's geared more to popular styles of music, but the metalhead in me finds enough to be pretty satisfied. I use it all the time when I'm at work, and some of the time when I'm home... There's a few restrictions, but basicaly you can register and use it free if you let the ad play in the browser all the time, or you can pay almost nothing and get the ad-free version. It works well when you are going to be near a broadband connection anyway - and it works through http proxys. :) --Danny -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist