On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:27:39AM -0500, Byron A Jeff wrote: I forgot one point. > > other than it seems you personally feel you know something about PICs > > and therefore just don't like the idea of having someone else take care of > > that part for you. That's certainly your call, but everyone is going to see > > this tradeoff differently. The DIY aspects of PIC development is one of the reasons why it has such a large hobby following. Free development software and cheap and easy to build programming hardware fueled hobby PIC development. While cost effective options such as PicKit 2, EasyProg, and WISP628 are available, my Trivial Programmer Forums tell me that there's still a roll your own crowd out there whose needs may be unmet in the impending conversion to USB. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist