You do not want to use a transorb for a repetitive application like this. Transorbs have a limited life. Every spike they see shortens this life. When they fail, and they will, they usually fail shorted causing even more problems. Larry ---- Bob Axtell wrote: > Spehro Pefhany wrote: > > > > >A diode across the coil has been suggested, and is the simplest way of > >handling the coil inductance. A 1N4148 is fine for any relay you'd be > >likely to use. > > > > > Alas, sorry, it is NOT fine and is no longer considered good > engineering practice. I see > this idea all over the place, and this is bad information. Even relay > manufacturers include > a diode, but it is not good practice. > > The 1N4148 is a "faster" general purpose silicon diode, used at one time > because nothing > any better was available. The 1N4148 cannot switch fast enough to > suppress the edges > of an inductive spike, so was most successful when a cap in series with > a resistor is in parallel with > the coil as well as the 1N4148. Moreover, it cannot handle the high > current pulse of the inductive > collapse. I've seen wholesale device failures with this setup, even with > tiny 5V relays. > > Use a Transorber, Varistor, or TVS device, with a voltage rating just > above the voltage being > applied to the relay or motor. If need be, just trust me on this one, > its the truth. Go to the > technical documents page of any transient voltage suppressor maker and > you will understand > what people are doing. These were originally invented by GE. > > Slow oscilloscopes won't pickup the unsupressed spike, so this can't be > easily proven, but if you > own a small portable radio, you can pick up the unsuppressed spike on > the AM spectrum. With a > 1N4148 it will still be present, with little improvement. If you then > use a transorber or TVS placed > AT THE RELAY COIL, the spike will be so suppressed that you can't pick > it up (but if the suppressor > is not placed as close to the relay as possible, the RF will still be > generated by radiating through the > conductors going from the relay coil to the suppressor). Try it. > > --Bob > > >Best regards, > > > >Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" > >speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com > >Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com > >->> Inexpensive test equipment & parts http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Note: To protect our network, > attachments must be sent to > attach@engineer.cotse.net . > 1-520-850-1673 USA/Canada > http://beam.to/azengineer > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist