Hi! While developing my (first asm) project on a pic 16f684 I realised that with my programmer (http://213.97.130.124/progs/pp2/pp2.htm - in spanish) I can't program the 16F684. Icprog don't support this PIC, so I've tried making a definition file on WinPIC, but I am doing something bad because all my tries are failed (maybe something related to Vpp voltage or programming speed?). Being so disappointed I've thought on buying a programmer directly from Microchip, hoping this would solve my problems once and for all, at least for a few years. I have a clear idea of what I want to do in my way of learning using PICs and for that reason I've sampled (in the course of time) the following models: 16F628A, 16F684, 16F84A, 16F877A, 18F2455, 18F2550, 18F4550. I think that with these models I can make most of the projects I could figure in the next years, but I do accept suggestions :) My priorities are size, power/speed, i/o count and communication capabilities :) Well, I've browsing the Microchip website and I've found that the programmer that could fit my needs at best price could be the PICKit 2 programmer. So, what is your opinion about this programmer? Any idea of what should I do? Thanks in advance for the answers ;) P.D.- What about RFPics? Anybody has tested them? Cheers Metis Adrastea -- He comentado ya que tengo un blog? O:-) http://metisadrastea.blogspot.com/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist