James Newtons Massmind wrote: > How about if the output of the programming software did not need to > immediately go to the programmer? If it could be saved in a file and > then simply copied out the serial port at a later date? This means there is no chance of any readback from the target PIC. In theory it would work if everything went right, but you wouldn't know if it didn't until you tried to run the code. Diagnosing a problem with this setup could be very frustrating, especially for a newbie for whom this programmer is supposed to be aimed at. ****************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, (978) 742-9014. #1 PIC consultant in 2004 program year. http://www.embedinc.com/products -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist