>> Ok then, how about an LVP programmer that uses only non-programmed
>> components and takes a stream from a serial port like Tony's ASCII
>> programmer. Perhaps the clock signal could be developed without RC
>> circuits.
> 
> Why is that better than a high voltage programmer which can 
> always program the chip regardless of how the LVP bit is set?

The hardware can be simpler.

>> Again, the point is to not require any programming software,
> 
> But why?  

Probably to support the widest range of PC platforms.

> There clearly needs to be *some* software between 
> the disk and the serial port (or whatever port)

Yes, but that software does not need to be on the users PC: the author
could translate the .hex file to something that can be streamed directly
out of the serial or parallel port.

Note that I don't fully agree with James' ideal, but I can see his
points.

Wouter van Ooijen

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