On Jan 29, 2006, at 1:50 PM, John Nall wrote: > Well, I didn't give the whole story. I have a chip in my > possession (a 14000) and I have the source of a program > which I would very much like to program into it. For ONE, find someone locally with a fancy "device programmer" and talk them into programming it for you. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist